Steward requests/Global permissions

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Agent Isai@global
Hello! I would like to be a global sysop to help admins and bureaucrats on other wikis fight evil and spam, I wouldn't abuse power at all (either way I'll get demoted if I do that) and I won't take drastic actions (like blocking IPs) unless I'm authorized by buerocrats or admine of that wiki. Agent Isai! Orain Rocks! Example.png 18:12, 22 September 2014 (BST)
 * per what I said at Requests for permissions/Administrator/Agent Isai.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:14, 22 September 2014 (BST)
 * Agent Isai also removed my comment, which is also bad wiki etiquette.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:31, 22 September 2014 (BST)
 * per Jasper, what I said there too, and recent conduct regarding other user's comments.— cyberpower ChatOnline 03:56, 25 September 2014 (BST)
 * - I would suggest that you get some more experience here on meta and also focusing for some time on your newly-adopted wiki. Global Sysop is not a permission that is taken lightly and is generally only given out to experienced users. I would also like to see you get involved on other wikis before gaining a global permission. -- Joe G. (Talk) 03:35, 26 September 2014 (BST)


 * meh, I give up! I don't care anymore, I have my own wiki Example.png Agent Isai!  Orain Rocks! Example.png 14:24, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * So you withdraw this SRGP request? Southparkfan (talk) 14:50, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * mkay John (talk) 15:10, 26 September 2014 (BST)

Southparkfan@global
Hi guys. I'm requesting global sysop access now. The last time, I see a mass attack of spam at multiple wikis. On Meta I can delete this (as a local sysop), but not on other wikis as I do not have sysop access there. At the moment, I can't do much more than only nominating spam. When I see Agent Isai's request above, and somewhere he is right, but he's not getting much support because of activity, not long a member of Orain yet, bad communication, no knowledge of Orain's processes, and more. But performing deletions, blocks, and whatever, is not the only reason I'm requesting this: I am known as a wiki creator here on Meta, and I'll need GS also in my line as Wiki Creator. I am checking wikis for inactivity (and lock these), and I must say that I need to work on this project again (and I really promise I will do), but I can't create/edit the sitenotices on those wikis. Closing wikis without leaving a sitenotice why it is closed, info about the adoption process, and related things, is probably not a good thing.

If I get GS, I can do all the needed things when doing my wiki creator work + do other general stuff on request. Please note that this is a general permissions request, and that I will use the rights for things outside my wiki creator or spam-deletion role but in the role as a Global Sysop (this can include blocks, RevDel and more - I want to make a notice of this so I didn't confuse you). I promise that I won't use the tools outside of situations where the tools are meant for, unless I got the permission of a local sysop to do so. I'm a proud member of Orain, and I really hope you trust me with these tools. If you have any questions, comments, other notes, you can leave them below. Southparkfan (talk) 19:46, 25 September 2014 (BST)


 * You understand that Global Sysops are not considered local sysops, and that the global tools should only be used when absolutely necessary (spam attacks, no local sysops, etc.) correct? D u s t i *Let's talk!* 01:23, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * From what I can see; that is all he is asking the permissions for. John (talk) 07:55, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * Good question, and I think you probably want to notice me about this? If wikis want to manage their own business (and don't want to have Global Sysops there, they are free to opt-out themselves, create a policy (and of course I have to follow that), or in any way let the GS team know they don't have to/should do stuff there. Reasons for me to block/delete are spam (sure), perhaps obvious vandalism ("vandalism" (but in other kinds) is tolerated on testwiki, and probably a few others. That is a reason to better ignore that, as it only can cause problems with the community.), and if there is a request from a local sysop which asks me to do something, and gives the permission to do that, I'll be happy to help out there. For the wiki creator things: see below. Southparkfan (talk) 15:13, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * - Could you elaborate a little bit more on why you need GS to assist in your wikicreator duties? As far as I know, and it may have changed since I've been inactive-ish, but Wikicreators aren't actually responsible for handling locking wikis or anything else besides the actual creation of a wiki. I'm not opposed to them helping out with this in the slightest, but I'm not sure what the GS bits will actually do for your true wikicreator role. I would also like to make sure, along the lines of Dusti's question, that you understand that GS permissions are only to be used in an emergency in which no local sysop is available to act? That does not include handling any routine local requests through the appropriate local venue, routine deletions or blocks, et cetera. -- Joe G. (Talk) 03:50, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * Wikicreators have the ability to lock wikis and I encourage them to because I'm not doing it and no one else seems interested in actively doing it. The policy is when locking; create MediaWiki:Sitenotice, which SPF is the only wikicreator who is not able to as Revi is a GS. John (talk) 07:55, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * Wikicreator: There is no requirement to monitor the activity of wikis, but I've been asked to get through a list of wikis, like you did in 2013. In fact, I've closed a few, leaving the known notices on the Main Page (which sometimes is editprotected). There's no global editinterface (if there's one, that would be also okay for me), so therefore GS seems the only option. GS: see above. Southparkfan (talk) 15:13, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * Dragneel (talk) 21:55, 26 September 2014 (BST) In my opinion is not ready for it
 * Could you please clarify why? As this is not a vote, without a rationale your oppose will not be taken into account when closing. John (talk) 22:09, 26 September 2014 (BST)
 * ✅, thank  you for the notification. Dragneel (talk) 01:33, 27 September 2014 (BST)


 * Hi Dragneel, can you please explain me why I am not ready for this yet? You are not required to explain it me, but your current description is too short that I can do something with it. Southparkfan (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2014 (BST)