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Custom domain
Please run "deleteArchivedFiles.php" on https://right.orain.org. I deleted 2600 images, that exist on common, and expect to save with that 0.6...1GB space. Thank you in advance, Fiala1 (talk) 19:45, 5 February 2015 (GMT)

Is it possible to get (for payment) an own url (like for example rightpedia.org)? We would pay for that, name registration price is about 13 euro/year. If you do not want to handle that, I could register the name, but you had to setup the server to handle that. Would you do any of the above? Fiala1 (talk) 09:42, 15 February 2015 (GMT)
 * You only have to buy the domain name (and assign its nameservers to ns1.orain.org and ns2.orain.org), and we'll setup the rest. Southparkfan (talk) 09:48, 15 February 2015 (GMT)


 * It seems to be the case, that registration and hosting are usually combined. Could you handle a name registration for us? I have now a name somewhere and it costs 13 euro/year. We could offer that amount for this purpose. The name we'd like is rightpedia.org, rightpedia.info, rightpedia.com, rightpedia.us or rightpedia.co.uk, in this order.  Fiala1 (talk) 16:27, 1 March 2015 (GMT)
 * You only need to buy the domain name - our servers will "host" it. Orain uses Namecheap, but you are not required to use them. Orain does not handle domain name registrations. Southparkfan (talk) 16:30, 1 March 2015 (GMT)

Login problem
Hi there, the following login problem occurs with my wiki: if I browse to my wikis sub-domain ufoi.orain.org and try to login, I always get redirected to the "no permission" site. The only way to access my wiki is to browse to orain.org, log in and then browse my wikis sub-domain.
 * Hi there! By no permission site do you mean the page 'https://ufoi.orain.org/wiki/Special:CentralLogin/complete?token=XXX' ?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 11:02, 6 April 2015 (BST)
 * Exactly. By the way: it seems to be the same problem as reported on the Stewards' noticeboard, topics "Permissions on bibbia2000.orain.org" and "Login namuh.orain.org". --Tampere (talk) 12:12, 6 April 2015 (BST)
 * Okay! Basically it looks like we just need to give anon access to Special:CentralLogin to allow people to login! *adds it to the todo list*  ·addshore·  talk to me! 13:24, 6 April 2015 (BST)
 * Interesting, per this line I would have thought that these should be no issue, *keeps digging*  ·addshore·  talk to me! 13:52, 6 April 2015 (BST)
 * Any news about this issue? --Tampere (talk) 18:55, 10 May 2015 (BST)
 * Do you still get the issue now? Southparkfan (talk) 19:18, 10 May 2015 (BST)
 * Yes, still the same. --Tampere (talk) 20:07, 10 May 2015 (BST)

Abuse Filter / blank pages
/ We've talked about this before but I figured I should log it in the tech spot. Again just confirmed the issue with 'blank pages' with abuse filter. Triggering the abuse filter is the only time I've ever seen the issue. I tripped Special:AbuseFilter/1 @ quantixhl2rpwiki and the page was just completely blank. As soon as I changed the filter so I didn't trip it, the page loaded. I think SPF previously said it was a HHVM issue? Dunno.. sucks tho :( NDKilla (talk) 17:36, 19 May 2015 (BST)

Downtime this morning (20 May 2015)
There was some downtime this morning caused by a large spike in traffic, probable DDOS, which out current host Digital Ocean dealt with by stopping traffic to our servers for a period of time. Sorry for any inconveniences caused.  ·addshore·  talk to me! 11:17, 20 May 2015 (BST)
 * The wiki still is reachable over IPv6 but still unreachable over IPv4.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2015 (BST)

The file linking to Wikimedia Commons no longer works.
Articles themselves are showing up with the images as red links where once they had commons images. I purge the articles a couple times. I go to the images and the images aren't there. I purge the images a couple times. Still nothing.

For example, I picked two random Wikimedia Commons images:

Random pic: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Frank_H%C3%BClsebeck_Bronze_Skulptur_life_is_beautiful.jpg

Does not work on Orain Meta https://meta.orain.org/wiki/File:Frank_H%C3%BClsebeck_Bronze_Skulptur_life_is_beautiful.jpg Does not work on individual wikis https://right.orain.org/wiki/File:Frank_H%C3%BClsebeck_Bronze_Skulptur_life_is_beautiful.jpg https://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/File:Frank_H%C3%BClsebeck_Bronze_Skulptur_life_is_beautiful.jpg

Random pic: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diagrama_vertical.xcf

Does not work on Orain Meta https://meta.orain.org/wiki/File:Diagrama_vertical.xcf Does not work on individual wikis https://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/File:Diagrama_vertical.xcf https://right.orain.org/wiki/File:Diagrama_vertical.xcf

Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 05:22, 22 May 2015 (BST)


 * I can't replicate the issue. All the links you said don't work, work. At least on meta and rightwiki. Individual wikis can have commons linking disabled, but it's enabled by default, and those were working. The issue may have been indirectly caused by the issues Orain has been having at a whole for the last several days, but right now those links work. Cheers, NDKilla (talk) 13:37, 25 May 2015 (BST)


 * This was fixed several days ago. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 13:51, 25 May 2015 (BST)

Recent Downtime
Hi all! As you have probably noticed we have been having some issues recently! Please see here for the initial write up. More details to come, essentially, we were being DDoSed... the DDoS should no longer effect services.  ·addshore·  talk to me! 13:16, 29 May 2015 (BST)

Can't create account
I don't receive an image when trying to create an account. 62.210.69.5 20:25, 14 June 2015 (BST)
 * I noticed this problem before on certain networks. I haven't looked up your IP but is there any chance your network is filtering the services that provide captchas? If trying to create an account again at a later time still didn't work leave a note here and I believe sysadmins can create user accounts but I'd have to see. Good luck! -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 18:55, 16 June 2015 (BST)

Extension:CreateWiki problem?
Is there a problem with the CreateWiki extension? I noticed the long backlog at Proposals for new wikis and Southparkfan's [//meta.orain.org/w/index.php?title=Stewards%27_noticeboard&diff=16122&oldid=16116 comment a few days ago], but is this still a problem? Just wondering. Wynter (talk) 23:46, 24 June 2015 (BST)
 * This is indeed still a problem. The cloudflare API usage in the extension is currently not working (So CNAME records must be created by a limited number of users with CF access, currently excluding myself.) I'm attempting to fix the problem right now :) I don't have push-access to the repo containing the extension though. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:13, 25 June 2015 (BST)
 * ^ PR did not fix the issue and now local users aren't being created or assigned rights.. bleh... I'm creating CNAME's for a few wiki's I've been making, and I'm going to tell Reception and you to message me on IRC or email my orain.org address to create CNAMEs.. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 23:23, 25 June 2015 (BST)

Thumbnail problems
It appears that images 3600x3600 or larger will not create thumbnails for the images, seen this a few places and not exactly sure what the issue is. Might be the built in limit on thumbnails, or an actual limitation that might have to be worked around.

Discussion from right.orain.org
I requested on the meta, Steward's requests, to fix this. Fiala1 (talk) 19:51, 24 June 2015 (BST)
 * $wgImageLimits This page is related to the thumbnail issue, as it's larger than the largest default thumbnail size. I believe you can just create a feature request to have this changed, but depending on the sizes of the file it may still be limited. (sysadmin) NDKilla (talk) 21:10, 24 June 2015 (BST)
 * The page says the largest size is 1280x1024 for thumbnails. I've seen larger images than this work and be thumbnails so I am not sure the maximum size.  The main Wikimedia/Wikipedia of course allows infinite size images to work.  This sounds like a limit in the software that generates the thumbnail rather than mediawiki itself.  A lot of times Wikimedia software uses a command line program called ImageMagick to generate the thumbnails. I tested it and 3600x3400 is around the maximum size it will work. I checked some other large images uploaded here and they were about 3500px and thumbnailed so that is about the maximum. Chemtrail Morgellons (talk) 00:08, 25 June 2015 (BST)
 * I'm not sure what thumbnail software we use on Orain tbh.. pretty tired right now but will look into that more in the near future.. :)

www. redirect for permanentfuturelab
When browsing to http://www.permanentfuturelab.wiki/ we get an "Error 1001 DNS resolution error" from CloudFlare. Can you please create a permanent redirect (301 http response) to http://permanentfuturelab.wiki/ ? Thanks in advance. --Jurjendevries (talk) 09:36, 6 July 2015 (BST) :I have looked on GitHub and there seems to be no problem, the redirect is there. Seems that not only your wiki is having problems here. Other wikis that have custom URL's are also having problems. --Reception123 (talk) 10:55, 6 July 2015 (BST)
 * Actually an issue with how we currently handle custom url's and I'm not actually sure how / if I can set this up. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 11:57, 6 July 2015 (BST)


 * Would you like us to disable the custom URL and to make your wiki permanentfuturelab.orain.org until we fix the problem? --Reception123 (talk) 15:09, 6 July 2015 (BST)
 * Please keep the current situation. Any ETA when this can be fixed. A lot of users are common with typing www.permanentfuturelab.wiki instead of permanentfuturelab.wiki . If this can't be fixed within a week, is it possible to add a temporary IP address (149.210.207.127) in your DNS for the www. record, then I will do a redirect on my server. Thanks. --Jurjendevries (talk) 23:59, 7 July 2015 (BST)
 * , I cannot help with DNS and this kind of stuff as 1. I don't have the rights 2. I'm not sure how to. --Reception123 (talk) 11:14, 10 July 2015 (BST)
 * Would be great if you can change DNS. Thanks. --Jurjendevries (talk) 15:52, 13 July 2015 (BST)
 * I am really sorry but Addshore has not had the time. The easiest for us would be to redirect it to permanentfuturelab.orain.org (the original URL), as that does not require big permissions. --Reception123 (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2015 (BST)
 * We prefer the custom domain. Is it possible to contribute technical administration for Orain in general? Don't know how to join the team. I did BIND DNS, Apache, Nginx and some other server management in the past. Could imagine that there are more customers with a custom domain. --Jurjendevries (talk) 16:25, 16 July 2015 (BST)
 * Yes, there are a few cases with custom domain. And yes, if you get involved in Orain and help around you will eventually get permissions. Personally, I only help around (the permissions I have are Meta administrator and wiki creator), so I only propose stuff, as I am not a programmer or anything like that. I understand that you prefer custom domain, but I do not know why it is not working. Let's hope get's to it.

( reset indent ) Our entire config used to be available on the ansible playbook and people could propose changes but do to issues with ddos's our entire DNS configuration is now done on CloudFlare and a limited number of people have access to it. I don't know what changes are needed to get custom domains working, nor do I know how to make those changes. We realize that you prefer to use your custom domain and we're sorry for the inconveniences. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:27, 16 July 2015 (BST)
 * Have you read Tech:Custom domains? Reception123 (talk) 19:28, 18 July 2015 (BST)
 * Sorry I havn't got to this before now. I am seriously confused, who is hosting the permanentfuturelab.wiki domain?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 19:32, 18 July 2015 (BST)
 * For us to be able to fix the DNS you have to answer the question Addshore asked above. --Reception123 (talk) 10:54, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * Sorry, missed that one. I registered the domain at provider TransIP. From there I configured your / Cloudflare nameservers to be used. I don't manage your DNS, and are only able to point to another nameserver. I used clark.ns.cloudflare.com as primary DNS, serena.ns.cloudflare.com as secundary, and ns1.orain.org as third. --Jurjendevries (talk) 11:03, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * So first you should remove ns1.orain.org totally. Secondly you say "I don't manage your DNS". I don't quite understand this. You are pointing your domain to cloudflare name servers and you have a coludflare account right? Or not?  ·addshore·  talk to me! 11:06, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * Reception123 (talk) 11:08, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * I removed ns1.orain.org. I don't have a Cloudfare account. If I remembered well, Southparkfan asked me to point to Cloudfare, so I thought Orain have an account there and is managing the DNS records.
 * I will let {{Ping|Addshore{{ answer. But just to point out, Orain does have an Cloudflare account. Reception123 (talk) 12:11, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * Indeed we have a cloudflare account but permanentfuturelab.wiki is not in the list.. As per this tool I can see ns1.orain.org has now gone. I'll add the domain to our account now. Will report back in a bit.  ·addshore·  talk to me! 12:14, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * Added and set up. As far as I can tell everything is now working. Any issues let me know  ·addshore·  talk to me! 12:24, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * Addshore has fixed it! --Reception123 (talk) 12:24, 22 July 2015 (BST)
 * Great, even the redirection of www is working. Only one small thing left, is it possible to do a wildcard 301 (permanent redirect) Eg. if a visitor is going to http://www.permanentfuturelab.wiki/wiki/Permanent_Future_Lab_Wiki can you redirect this to http://permanentfuturelab.wiki/wiki/Permanent_Future_Lab_Wiki . Else some search engines will see this as duplicate content, and some users will create external links to www. instead of without www. . Thanks a lot for helping. --Jurjendevries (talk) 12:52, 22 July 2015 (BST)

(reset indent) Yes, it is possible. Should be done soon Reception123 (talk) 14:31, 22 July 2015 (BST)