User talk:Arcane

Modified Monaco skin
Hi. I am not an Orain staff member. I moved your comment here from my talk page just so you wouldn't lose it when I removed it from my talk page.

I see that Mediawiki.org has pages about additional skins that are not part of the standard set of Mediawiki skins, and that your stuff is there too. Better categorization and better organization of all the skin info there (from all sources) would be helpful.

mw:Skin:Monaco might have links added for the Monaco variations out there. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Block of Daisy2002
He is neither vandal nor troll. He is Korean wikipedia user,and trustable. I hope you unblock him. -- 레비 Revi Discuss 12:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello
I'm in. Where should I help out? Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, if you want to add some more to the MW Testers Wiki, that'd be great. Also, dunno if the Orain staff need anymore help, but you could always ask. If you want to set up your wiki here, I'd make an XML dump of it (it's small enough you could dump every single page with Special:Export) and ask the Orain guys create a wiki for you here with that XML as your start up content. Arcane (talk) 01:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I actually just changed the address of the wiki to http://www.bigotrywiki.ssu.lt and made it accessible again, without the notice at the top. I did remove the old bigotry.sashaweb.net so it will be like the wiki is completely starting over.  Sturm originally wanted it, but I'm going to take out the "Hosted by Sturmkrieg" link, which I think should get him off of us a little.  Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 02:13, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thought you were going to set up here, but that works. :) Arcane (talk) 02:49, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I just redesigned the main page, and that domain works now. I might move it here at some point.  There is going to come a point where it will have to move to a wiki with a proper database, but it seems to work fine for now.  I think that's due to not being at GoDaddy and not trying to run a wiki hosting service on the server.  Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 08:59, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

New Rational Wiki
I founded it at Orain. http://rationalwiki.ssu.lt/wiki/Main_Page I'll work on importing pages and writing a mass attribution script for the site JavaScript page. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 17:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I recommend you request one of these be imported to give yourself a head start. GethN7 (talk) 19:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I just tried to import that after requesting import access, which is what they told me to do. It was too big, but I'm working on importing large categories, which should give most of the actual content.  Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 19:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Becoming admin
Requests for permissions/Inquisitor Sasha (Admin)

Could you vote for it? Thanks. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 04:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Automatic attribution of imported content
I made a script here for mass attributing imported content. The problem with it though is that it will attribute every single page, regardless of whether it was actually imported. I looked for ways for the script to get the creation date of the page. It would work for forked wikis where all pages created before a specific date are treated as imported and would be tagged with attribution. I might make a repository for JavaScript and CSS scripts. Inquisitor Sasha (talk) 04:45, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

If we do this wiki, what do you think?
User:Lieutenant S. Reznov/Privacy policy for nazi pseudohistory wiki

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:28, 22 July 2014 (BST)
 * That seems pretty reasonable to me, althougth if the blog uses their real name, I don't see a reason to censor that, just anything else that could be use to dox them on the wiki. GethN7 (talk) 22:31, 22 July 2014 (BST)
 * It's like how Reddit doesn't allow users to show the names of people in screenshots of creepy or jacked up statements. Sure it might have been posted in public under their real name, but we might as well make it slightly less likely that the person will completely ruin their entire life because of it.  Keep in mind that someone getting wrecked by dumb behavior can affect other people around them, especially if they're married.  Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:49, 22 July 2014 (BST)
 * Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Sounds like a wise policy, given that information. GethN7 (talk) 22:50, 22 July 2014 (BST)

DondreKhan
Please ignore him. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:18, 23 July 2014 (BST)

Productive work
I got Lexipedium to stop saying that there was only one article.

We can also work on various JavaScript functions and objects to simplify tasks for users without programming experience. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:26, 23 July 2014 (BST)

The wiki page scanner
I've almost got a working word frequency counter ready for it. So it counts the number of times each trigger word is used.

https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/saloon_bar.py

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 03:43, 7 August 2014 (BST)

I just completed the logging word occurrence feature and I'm about to upload it. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 03:55, 7 August 2014 (BST)
 * Excellent. See what you can do to refine for use by the Orain Staff in the process. Arcane (talk) 14:09, 7 August 2014 (BST)
 * I'm currently working on a setup for a crawler. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 23:49, 8 August 2014 (BST)

Here's a wiki crawler that I'm working on. Currently all it does is print out the title to the terminal.

https://github.com/KrasnayaSecurity/WikiDefenseSuite/blob/master/web_scanners/wiki_crawler.py

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:01, 9 August 2014 (BST)


 * I've just added functionality to print out the number of total terms each time it scans a page. Right now it's the total found per crawl, but I could set it to purge every time it scans a new page.  Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:50, 9 August 2014 (BST)

Encyclopedia Muricana
Start an article on Social Justice Warriors?

http://encyclopediamuricana.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 21:22, 13 August 2014 (BST)

Email account
I got a mail server up, which I planned to do since Microsoft decided to be ****heads as usual and cancel their free email hosting service. I can make you an account at for  and. I'll send the information to. If you need a password reset or sth ever, I'll send it there as well. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 21:55, 15 August 2014 (BST)
 * Nah, I'm good. Thanks for the offer, though. GethN7 (talk) 22:17, 15 August 2014 (BST)

Imageboard
We need a name for it. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 20:19, 25 August 2014 (BST)

Development search engine
I was thinking that it would be a good idea to make a Google search engine for Stack Overflow. I've made one that includes development/programming sites. It does not, and never will, include W3 Fools.

http://sturmkrieg.ru/search/

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 01:00, 26 August 2014 (BST)
 * Wow, works great. Typed in stuff like "MediaWiki" "Perl" and "Javascript", and most to all of the search results were exactly what I expected. However, if it won't make you too angry, why the burning contempt for W3C? GethN7 (talk) 06:03, 26 August 2014 (BST)
 * They requested that W3 Fools stop trying to associate with their name. Just search for why W3Schools sucks.  They even have a disclaimer saying that they aren't responsible for their own advice, and offer scam certification.  Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 15:14, 26 August 2014 (BST)

RedSec Wiki
Get on there so they can add you as admin!

https://redsec.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 19:32, 7 September 2014 (BST)

I'm going to be forking Lexicanum
Same as you forked ATT.

https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_wikis#Encyclopedium_.28Status:_Pending.29

Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 17:21, 29 October 2014 (GMT)

Attributing an entire wiki using CC
Do you know what the best way to do it is? Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 22:32, 30 October 2014 (GMT)
 * Given it was under a non specific "use attribution" clause, then had CC licensing applied, assuming everything was properly attributed before the CC licensing was applied (I assume with community assent/approval), then just import an XML dump of the content from the wiki you are forking and make sure you use the same license if it has a Share-Alike clause. If it was just CC BY (attribution only), you can still import it as CC BY SA, but make sure to mention in your licensing notes where the original content was derived, which should suffice for blanket attribution purposes. Arcane (talk) 00:33, 31 October 2014 (GMT)
 * There was no community discussion about this. Lieutenant S., Geschichtsmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 16:28, 31 October 2014 (GMT)
 * Then i would attribute it under CC-BY if you want to go Creative Commons route. It would afford more copyright weight than a non CC version of attribution required at any rate. If not, given the CC licensing there was imposed without community consent, I would still have some form of CC licensing anyway for legal reasons. (it's more defensible in court, should it come to that). Arcane (talk) 19:10, 31 October 2014 (GMT)
 * To my knowledge, there isn't a lot of case law on CC attribution (though IANAL). The license itself is pretty vague, but really the answer is simple -- provide the best attribution that you can.  On All The Tropes wiki, we put in every page's history the original location of the information, the name of the former wiki, and that page's history.  If you're taking from another Mediawiki site, that metadata is usually included via Special:Export.  You'll probably want to mention the source on your wiki's general disclaimer page or copyrights page.  If the wiki was CC-BY, you can relicense it with virtually any other license that requires attribution, from the GFDL to CC-NC-BY-SA-ND.  My own personal preference is CC-BY, though. Vorticity (talk) 22:07, 31 October 2014 (GMT)

Battlefield wiki import
Please get ready to import a dump for battlefield.orain.org. Inquisitor S., Großmeister des Ordo Malleus 07:27, 15 November 2014 (GMT)

Extension Collection problem on a wiki
Hi there Arcane! Sorry to bother you but I have this problem:

I can now see the Extension Collection is installed on fmucanat.orain.org (sidebar "print/export" menu included), but for every page (even outside the main page) the "download as pdf" option links to a pdf rendering of the main page of the wiki and not of the page I'm on... Also, every single book rendering fails... Are there any solutions to this?

Thanks for the attention! E samarta (talk) 22:53, 19 November 2014 (GMT)
 * The Collection extension does require a little customization for each wiki, now that I think about it, and I'll probably have to add some custom settings tweaked for yours. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, will look into it. Arcane (talk) 23:09, 19 November 2014 (GMT)

(My answer to this here:) I was indeed thinking about making the wiki go public, but only in the future (when I would have a sufficient number of articles). This could take months or even a year. But if eventually the collection extension is going to work (by making the wiki public), I'd like to keep it and when the moment arrives I'll ask the wiki to go public. Thanks again for the help. E samarta (talk) 00:34, 20 November 2014 (GMT)
 * Fine by me. :) Arcane (talk) 00:53, 20 November 2014 (GMT)

Concerning my Feature Request
Dear Arcane,

I just filled a feature request. Are you able to do this for me before 12 o'clock (GMT+1)? (so one hour from now). I would like to go public today at 12, as I think it is the right timing. I have to compete for attention with other information aimed at the same target group.

Thanks alot!

Matthijs

You said you added logo but you didnt ;(
http://robloxclans.orain.org/wiki/File:Clan-Icon-700px.png
 * I did as you asked, but it can take up to 24 hours for our server cache to refresh so you can see the changes. Also, if it's still messed up tomorrow, ask someone else for help, I turned in my VIP card to commit changes for wikis earlier today, so I can't help with your request anymore. Arcane (talk) 02:38, 24 November 2014 (GMT)
 * Fixed. John (talk) 15:37, 24 November 2014 (GMT)

Erreur
Bonjour, merci d'avoir répondu à cette demande, mais malheureusement, je ne vois aucun changement sur mon wiki. Pouvez vous faire quelque chose ? Merci. --Bastenbas (talk) 10:00, 29 November 2014 (GMT)
 * Mes excuses, je ai présenté des changements pour résoudre ce, devrait être corrigée sous peu. Le captcha n'a pas été désactivé en raison de problèmes de sécurité. Donner aux utilisateurs une / droite autoconfirmed confirmé à contourner le captcha. Arcane (talk) 21:15, 29 November 2014 (GMT)
 * Désolé c'est encore moi. Sa ne va toujours pas sur mon wiki : Le logo n'est pas changé. Pourriez-vous voir ? --Bastenbas (talk) 18:35, 16 December 2014 (GMT)
 * Je vois. Nous avons dû changer quelques paramètres du serveur et cela peut avoir été touchés, je me en occuperai. GethN7 (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2014 (GMT)
 * Le problème a été résolu. Aussi, GethN7 est mon autre compte, je me excuse pour la confusion. GethN7 (talk) 21:56, 16 December 2014 (GMT)

Default language
Hi there again!

Recently I've noticed that, altough my wiki was originally created in Portuguese, its default language is now English, which messes up a lot of things such as finding pages or categories.

Could you change it back to Portuguese, please?

Thanks for the attention, E samarta (talk) 16:43, 29 November 2014 (GMT)

Wikimedia Commons
Does Orain Wikis prefer us to use duplicate images on the Commons whenever possible? Does the Commons encourage this to be done? Is a cached copy kept here on Orain for any of the thumbs used here on Orain? I am curious as to how it all works.

Here is a duplicated image I noticed today:
 * https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/File:Dana_Beal_1994_marijuana_march.jpg
 * https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/File:Dana_Beal_1994.jpg

I use it on a page that I am copying/moving from Wikia. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:56, 27 December 2014 (GMT)
 * Orain has no issue with you keeping files on their servers, but if you can use copies from Commons only, it's preferred. Commons themselves doesn't mind keeping duplicate files in different formats, but duplicates in the same format are discouraged most of the time. If the files are from Commons, no, no cache is kept on Orain, it's derived from Commons. Arcane (talk) 03:03, 27 December 2014 (GMT)
 * OK. I will use the Commons image. I deleted the duplicate image uploaded to Orain.


 * Here is the description page on Orain for the Commons image:
 * https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/File:Dana_Beal_1994.jpg


 * In Firefox when I right-click the full-size image, and then click "View Image Info", it says that full-size image is on the Commons:
 * http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Dana_Beal_1994.jpg


 * I do the same thing on the thumb on this page:
 * https://cannabis.orain.org/wiki/Dana_Beal


 * It says the thumb is here:
 * https://static.orain.org/cannabis.orain.org/images/thumb/3/3c/Dana_Beal_1994.jpg/450px-Dana_Beal_1994.jpg


 * I like the fact that the full-size image is coming from the Commons. Some of those full-size images can be megabytes in size. The Commons has the server power to handle that. I avoid uploading images greater than 500 kilobytes in size to wiki farms. In order to avoid further stressing the bandwidth loads of the smaller servers. --Timeshifter (talk) 05:29, 27 December 2014 (GMT)

Uploads disabled on
please check:. Thank you, Fiala1 (talk) 11:14, 30 December 2014 (GMT)
 * I'm not Arcane but the file upload function was disabled for a few hours due to disk issues. You can upload files again. Southparkfan (talk) 14:32, 30 December 2014 (GMT)

Delete files that are also on commons
Is there a way to find the list of files, that I uploaded onto orain, even though they exist in common? My wiki is right.orain.org. If yes, I'd delete them, to save space on orain. Fiala1 (talk) 20:08, 1 February 2015 (GMT)
 * Sadly, I do not know of an easy way to determine this, especially if the image was uploaded with a different filename or format. Arcane (talk) 22:37, 1 February 2015 (GMT)


 * I may be able to help. Here is a list I use on various wikis. All the results are in reverse chronological order.
 * Special:ListFiles - image upload log with large thumbs.
 * Special:NewFiles - new files, with small thumbs.
 * Special:Log/upload - text list of uploads.
 * Special:Log/delete - deletion log for images, etc..
 * The Orain upload page will tell you if an image is already on the Commons. Before the upload happens. But I it only works if the filename and format is the same. I just tested it again. When the image is the same there is this message that shows up: "A file with this name exists already, please check File:ImageName.jpg if you are not sure if you want to change it."


 * Once an image is uploaded to Orain (with a name different from any image on the Commons) there is no easy way to know if the image exists on the Commons. You can search the Commons for good images, and then use their filenames here on Orain. Without uploading them. Then go and delete similar images from Orain if you no longer need them.


 * Commons images used on the wiki (without uploading the image) have this message on their file page here: "This file is from Wikimedia Commons and may be used by other projects. The description on its file description page there is shown below." --Timeshifter (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2015 (GMT)
 * Thanks for all this information. I copy it over to Rightpedia, and will use them. Fiala1 (talk) 21:09, 2 February 2015 (GMT)

Feature requests
I updated my features requests. (https://right.orain.org) User security and videoflash are withdrawn. Still missing are easytimeline, math and visitor count enabling. Occasionally, if solved, we could close that request. Fiala1 (talk) 22:25, 5 February 2015 (GMT)
 * Math and EasyTimeline are feasible, I can look into working on that. Visitor count enabling is currently not possible for technical reasons: Our caching has effectively disabled it since the cache updates would stagger the results so badly no one would be able to get accurate data on visitor counts. If we can find a third part extension to re-enable this in some fashion, we will attempt to do so. Arcane (talk) 22:49, 5 February 2015 (GMT)
 * Math has been enabled. EasyTimeline requires additional setup preparations, will have to confer with the rest of Orain Staff on how to add that. Arcane (talk) 23:25, 5 February 2015 (GMT)

Throttled image and template upload
I found, images and templates upload is throttled, maximum speed is 1 image/sec or 1 template/sec. Is there a way to switch off throttling, and allow upload without delay? Fiala1 (talk) 20:24, 1 February 2015 (GMT)
 * I suggest you file an issue report regarding this, since we are in the middle of migrating servers. That way, we can more fully look at this if things do not normalize afterwards. Arcane (talk) 22:37, 1 February 2015 (GMT)
 * I found, that throttling is caused by a subsequential protection of the file or template. I excluded the protection, and the problem is solved. Do not bother with this. Fiala1 (talk) 21:02, 2 February 2015 (GMT)

Thanks for approving my request & a few queries
Hi, thanks for approving my Wiki request, but I went to https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_wikis#Health_and_Medicine_Wiki_.28Status:_Pending.29 and my Wiki request is still listed as pending and I don't see where my Wiki is I checked hmwiki.orain.org and there is no such Wiki. Fuse809 (talk) 16:38, 2 February 2015 (GMT)

Edit: The Wiki still appears to not exist at http://hmwiki.orain.org. Fuse809 (talk) 16:57, 2 February 2015 (GMT)
 * You can find your new wiki here, my apologies for any confusion. Arcane (talk) 16:57, 2 February 2015 (GMT)


 * Thanks, um just one extra thing. How do I install extra extensions (e.g., I'd love to have a Jmol extension on it) on this Wiki? Fuse809 (talk) 17:13, 2 February 2015 (GMT)
 * You need to go here. Do bear in mind if the extension(s) is not in git/github repository it may take some time to fulfill the request, and some extensions may not be feasible for technical or security reasons. Arcane (talk) 17:51, 2 February 2015 (GMT)

Math extension
Thanks for installing. However, it does not work yet.

I tried a sample expression: $$pi=frac{3}{4} sqrt{3}+24 int_0^{1/4}{sqrt{x-x^2}dx}$$

And I get the message: Failed to parse (Missing  executable. Please see math/README to configure.)

test page: Fiala1 (talk) 09:55, 6 February 2015 (GMT)
 * I see, my apologies for the trouble, I'll work on fixing this ASAP. GethN7 (talk) 15:01, 6 February 2015 (GMT)

Images in common
With several images I have a problem. They do exist in commons.wikimedia.org, I edit them into a page, and they do not show. An example is https://right.orain.org/wiki/William_Weisband, where the image WeisbandW.jpg does not show. In https://right.orain.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein for example the image Einstein 1921 portrait2.jpg shows perfectly. Any ideas why this happens and how to fix this? Fiala1 (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2015 (GMT)
 * Seems to be an issue with our thumbnailing, will look into this. Arcane (talk) 21:43, 8 February 2015 (GMT)